Sam Amick is Positive on Mikki Moore

Sam Amick is the Sacramento Bee beat writer for the Sacramento Kings.

Sam was kind enough to give me a 15 minute phone interview regarding his perspective on the Celtics newest acquisition, newly released King forward/center, Mikki Moore.

Here is most of the transcript. Some interesting things come out about Mikki Moore. He discusses his strengths and limitations. Enjoy.

Tom: What is your overview on Mikki Moore?

Sam Amick: I’m pretty intrigued by the possibility of Mike going to Boston, because I’ve seen him as a guy who could add a lot to a play-off contender, just like he did with New Jersey. I actually think that he still has the potential to be the same kind of impact player that he was with the Nets, if he’s in the right system.

The problem with the Kings was they brought him in and he was starting, you know, and that’s not a knock on Mikki, but his reputation is what it is. He’s not considered a starting power forward.

He’s an energy guy who…doesn’t have a ton of post game, but he can hit the mid range shot and be a very good locker room and chemistry guy, an energy guy….got a lot flavor to him.

In a system like the Celtics with Rondo running things, and having so many options I wouldn’t be shocked at all to see him flourish pretty well.

Tom: So the post game is not his strong suit, but his mid range is what he’s all about?

Sam: Yeah, well…. the mid range was always there. He was always frustrated because they didn’t really want him shooting it. They had scorers out in Sacramento. That really wasn’t their problem. Honestly, they relied mostly on Mikki for kind of being the glue of what was a really bad defense. You know, he tried his best but the defense was bad with him and much worse without him.

A lot of time, Reggie Theus, the former coach was kind of going against the grain by continuing to play Mikki when it seemed like the front office didn’t want to play him anymore. They wanted to see the rookie Jason Thompson, and guys like that. But he felt like…you take Mikki out of the mix and it was going to get even uglier than it already was.

Tom: That suggestion stands up when you look at Mikki’s numbers on 82games.com. The Kings were minus 8 pts. when Mikki played and minus 10 points when he was off the court. So the Kings were actually two points better when Mikki played.

Sam: But yeah, the post game…he’s still the skinniest 7 footer I’ve ever seen. The guy just can’t gain weight, so the guy’s going to get bounced around a bit. But he’ll give it all he has and he still has that mid range game.

Tom: Defensively, how would you describe his game?

Sam: He can make up for the lack of physicality with…he’s fairly physical with his frame…but he makes up for it by being tenacious.

I’ve seen a few things written recently describing him as a shot blocker. I think that’s a reach. He’s not a shot blocker. He will alter shots.

But the combination of Mikki and Brad Miller down low was probably the worst front court, defensively, in the league this year. How much of that was Brad, I don’t know. Brad regressed after a good year last year and Mikki was making up for his mistakes a lot of the time, too.

I think he’s an average defender. But again, it goes back to the fact that if he’s your eighth or ninth guy, you don’t have to rely on him (for big minutes). If he has a bad spell, put him on the bench for 5-10 minutes and put him back in. You don’t have to rely on him for 20 minutes at a time.

Tom: Is he better on ball or as a help defender?

Sam: He’s a better help defender. That was his niche, helping this team that was a poor help defensive team. There were so many young guys that he always felt like he was making up for too many mistakes and getting exposed because of that. He’s a help guy. He’s not a lock down defender.

Tom: Seems like he’s really good guy, like a Brian Scalabrine in the locker room…

Sam: Absolutely. You know those “NBA happens” commercials? They had one that was exclusively on Mikki, just for the path that he took, to get where he’s at in the league because he’s a guy who went D-League, he was in Greece, he was all over the international game.

His personal story makes him a coach’s favorite. They know that this guy is going to appreciate everything he has, and not get too big of a head, and be a good locker room guy. So…he’s a good dude. His teammates like him quite a bit.

He talks a ton, in terms of just on the floor. The problem was, he was one of the best leaders they had, but it’s not coming from one of your core guys. Their best players haven’t really figured out how to lead, but Mikki was talking and encouraging.

With good teams, chemistry is such a fragile thing, that is one thing I look at, even if he’s not going to play his best game, he’s not going to hurt you in the locker room.

Tom: With his mid range game, and Rondo driving, it looks like he should thrive with the Celtics starters. Do you agree?

Sam: Absolutely.

If he signs, you can joke with him about… he’s been pretty humble about it…he says that he should cut Jason Kidd part of his check, because he knows that Jason set him up time and time again that year. For him, that was a monstrous year. This is a guy that scratched and clawed to stay in the league.

Just for him to come in and seeing a gigantic poster of himself on the side of what is now the Izod Center in Jersey, and just the concept of being kind of heralded as one of the really important guys to an organization. That year for him was just off the charts. I think he knows that he’s probably never going to hit that level again.

But doesn’t mean that he can’t come in and, like you said, make the most of being a bit guy on a really good team. I think it’s good spot for him.

Tom: On the second unit, his defense will probably be more important. Though undersized, Baby and Leon can guard guys that physically bigger than themselves. Baby gives Shaq, Yao Ming and Dwight Howard trouble defensively. Can Moore guard players that are physically bigger than him?

Sam: Mikki can get bounced around by some of the bigger guys you mentioned. You’re not adding a defensive specialist. He can do some things and he’s a smart defensive player. But a lot of the assets and the qualities, in whatever capacity he has, that will help this squad, will be on the offensive end, too.

He’s a good pick and roll guy. He’s kind of a poor man’s Tyson Chandler. If you can set him up, he’s a dramatic finisher.

Tom: So he’s a good finisher?

Sam: Let me qualify that. The worst part of Mikki’s game, I know he’ll take this to the grave wishing he could fix this, but he’s got really bad hands. So he’s a bad finisher, if it’s off a little bit, then you’re going to see some fumbles. But in terms of going up and getting it, he’s fun to watch in terms of dunking the ball. If he’s got a little bit of space, he’s always dramatic about it.

He can be exciting and if it’s an energy thing, than he can give you a little jolt.

Tom: So he needs a soft delivery inside?

Sam: Yeah, he was spoiled with J-Kidd. It was a little bit different out here.

That was most of it.

Final Thoughts
Mikki sounds like someone who will give you all he has, and will appreciate the opportunity to be part of championship caliber team. It was rumored that the Spurs, among others, were interested in him. But all he wanted was Boston. He is a credible pick-up for bargain dollars, which is all the Celtics have right now.

One final thought on the Kidd connection.

Rondo can deliver the ball as effectively as Kidd does. He can accurately deliver the ball at different speeds, at tough angles, with pinpoint lobs, and Rajon draws defenses to himself in the paint. If anyone can get Mikki the ball with a little room to work, Rondo can.

This helps strengthen the bench. It gives Doc Rivers one more option he can rely on with some consistency, and Moore has played very well under play-off pressure. No doubt that factored in.

Welcome to Mikki Moore, the newest Celtic.

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  1. “he’s got really bad hands.”

    Oy!

    How long will he last? It’s not just Rondo that will pass to him…. Pierce and Garnett need an outlet down low.
    Doc and the fans will not put up with another Potapenko.

    Anyway…. thanks so much Tom for working so hard to analyze Moore. You have been way ahead of the field on this signing.

    Are you ready for more of the same for Marbury?
    I have the sick feeling in my stomach that we are bringing in the next Sydney Wicks.
    Elder statesmen Havlicek, Jo-Jo and Cowens weren’t enough to keep him under control and he even drove Cowens to a premature retirement, driving a cab. ;>)

    Comment by JB — February 25th, 2009 @ 6:34 am

  2. hey JB,

    Good to hear from you! hope all is well.

    I understand your concern. My feeling is that Moore won’t supplant Davis or Powe unless they are underperforming themselves. There will be times that a longer defender will make sense.

    Except for Davis and Powe’s feelings being a little hurt, I don’t see a problem and he does have that jump shot to open things up when it is required.

    BTW….Danny just went on record saying that Mikki Moore has “great hands”. ???

    Sidney Wicks lol!

    Quite an adventure, isn’t it?

    I read that Red Auerbach couldn’t remotely fathom guys like Wicks – a “new breed” of player. Wicks helped usher in the ‘all about me” era.

    Marbury is the current CEO of the AAM group.

    thanks for sharing your thoughts,
    Tom

    Comment by Tom Halzack — February 25th, 2009 @ 11:22 am

  3. T, real good interview/story re Mikki Moore.
    Is Danny preparing for a future life as Santa Clause? Cuz he keeps delivering gifts to the Cs!
    I’m generally not crazy about Marbury, watching him here in NYC with the Nets and then the Knicks. That said, Doc and the big 3 will not put up with the AAM
    syndrome he carries. Maybe he makes his career into something worthwhile knowing his role here. When he’s motivated, he plays a good game, and he will be an upgrade over Pruitt. Definitely wishing him the best now!
    R

    Comment by R — February 25th, 2009 @ 12:28 pm

  4. Thanks for another good one, Tom. I was reading that and the thing about his bad hands really stood out. I was thinking where did I hear just the opposite? And I read your comment above with a LOL! Yeah, it was Danny, hehe. For some reason I tend to believe Sam more in this instance. :)

    And, JB, fear not, my man. We’ve got karma on our side right now. I’m getting a good vibe on KG and Marbury coming back together.

    Mike M

    Comment by Berkcelt — February 25th, 2009 @ 8:14 pm

  5. Good interview

    I like Moore, he’ll be a good pickup. He provides something different from both Davis and Powe, that diversity gives the bench a boost.

    Comment by Dave — February 25th, 2009 @ 8:17 pm

  6. R- yeah, you would know best, living in NY.

    but I’m optimistic anyway. Keep our fingers crossed, right?

    If he’s a problem, Doc will deal with it. But I think he can help. This is his big chance.

    T

    Comment by Tom Halzack — February 25th, 2009 @ 11:58 pm

  7. hey Mike – you saw that, too?

    Is Danny spinning?Or did he mean on rebounds and put backs. Mikki, I think is pretty good in that respect.

    Yes – the vibe is good. repeat coming up, I think.

    Thanks also to Berkcelt – agree with the diversity…and length.

    We likey Mikki.

    best,
    T

    Comment by Tom Halzack — February 26th, 2009 @ 12:02 am

  8. Good interview

    I like Moore, he’ll be a good pickup. He provides something different from both Davis and Powe, that diversity gives the bench a boost.

    Comment by Dave — February 26th, 2009 @ 3:05 am

  9. pretty much my take as well.

    Thanks Dave.

    Comment by Tom halzack — February 26th, 2009 @ 4:16 pm

  10. Danny is kind of a master of the half-truth. I’m sure he had at least something specific in mind when he said Mikki has great hands. I liked his showing in the Clips game (and not much to like in that game) considering he basically didn’t know anything about the Cs’ schemes.

    Comment by Berkcelt — February 27th, 2009 @ 12:30 am

  11. yeah, I don’t think Mikki is better than Davis or Powe. A different set of skills and energy? yes.

    I’ll root for someone like that. He appreciates what he has here. I hope he can contribute to the cause.

    T

    Comment by Tom halzack — February 27th, 2009 @ 1:17 am

  12. Mikki had “really bad hands” in Sacramento because that’s a team that doesn’t like to pass(just look at their assist/TO ratio). They don’t have a good distributing PG.
    I watched him in New Jersey and it wasn’t just J-Kidd who was feeding him passes. Vince Carter actually had a lot to do with Mikki’s success there as well with the pick and roll/pop. In Sac, the best passer on the team was the center… And it was rare to see Mikki miss a Brad Miller pass because he expected it from Miller, not that’s any excuse for fumbling as much as he did in Sac. In any case, this was a good pick up for the Celtics.

    Comment by Jim — March 5th, 2009 @ 3:26 pm

  13. I hear you Jim.

    I think Sam was making a similar point. In the beginning, Sac had no real point guards at all. Then they got Udrih. Beno is okay, but not a first tier PG, probably not starter quality on a good team.

    I think Doc hopes to work with Mikki to improve his defense the “Tom Thibodeau way” and hope for the best.

    We will find out, right?
    Tom

    Comment by Tom halzack — March 5th, 2009 @ 9:55 pm

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