Connecticut High School Football

High School Football news, analysis, commentary and features from the reporters of the Hearst Connecticut Media Group.

Return to Sean’s Playoff Neighborhood of Make Believe

|

Hello, boys and girls. The Week 9 games are in and the new playoff rankings are out. Check ‘em out here

OK, some real top-notch competition in Class MM. Only two in Class SS. Class S looks pretty good. Class L and Class LL look … well, OK. Lots of multiple-loss teams in both of those divisions, though. Class M is looking dreadful after Brookfield.

So now that we’ve had our dose of reality, what would the state playoff matchups look like in Sean’s Playoff Neighborhood of Make Believe? Let’s take a ride and see.

Ding! Ding!

All aboard! Let’s go.


IMAGINARY CLASS LL
1. Glastonbury 9-0…..320………..1,220……..135.56
2. Hamden 8-1………..370………..1,170……..130.00
3. Masuk 8-1………….300………..1,100……..122.22
4. Newtown 8-1……….270………..1,070……..118.89
5. Cheshire 7-2……….320………..1,020……..113.33
6. Simsbury 7-2………300………..1,000……..111.11
7. Southington 6-2……300………….900……..112.50
8. New Britain 7-2…….280…………980………108.89
So, if the season ended today the quarterfinals would be: No. 8 New Britain at No. 1 Glastonbury; No. 7 Southington at No. 2 Hamden; No. 6 Simsbury at No. 3 Masuk; No. 5 Cheshire at No. 4 Newtown.

—– Other Contenders —–
3. Crosby 7-2…………..270………970………..107.78
4. Newington 7-2………270………970………..107.78
5. Windsor 7-2…………270………970………..107.78
6. Bunnell 7-2………….220………910………..101.11
7. Shelton 6-3………….300………900………..100.00
8. Xavier 6-3…………….310………890…………98.89
9. NFA 6-2 ……………..190………790…………98.75
10. Ridgefield 6-3……..230………830…………92.22
11. Greenwich 6-3…….230………830…………92.22
12. Wilbur Cross 6-3…230……….810…………90.00

IMAGINARY CLASS M
1. New Canaan 9-0…..400……….1,360……..151.11
2. Darien 9-0…………..350……….1,310……..145.56
3. Hillhouse 9-0……….330……….1,240……..137.78
4. Brookfield 7-1………270………….990……..123.75
5. Cheney Tech 8-0….150………….940………117.50
6. Ledyard 7-2…………270…………970………107.78
7. Avon 7-2…………….260………….960………106.67
8. Berlin 6-2……………240…………840……….105.00

So, if the season ended today the quarterfinals would be: No. 8 Berlin at No. 1 New Canaan; No. 7 Avon at No. 2 Darien; No. 6 Ledyard at No. 3 Hillhouse; No. 5 Cheney Tech at No. 4 Brookfield.

—–Other Conenders——-
Bristol Eastern 6-3…..230…………880………97.78
St. Paul 7-2……………190…………880………97.78
Weaver 6-3…………….220…………860………95.56
Bethel 6-3………………160…………770……..85.56
Sheehan 6-3…………..170…………770………85.56
Hand 5-4………………..220………..750………83.33
Watertown 6-3………..140…………750………83.33
Platt 6-3…………………90…………730……….81.11

IMAGINARY CLASS S
1. New London 8-0…..360……..1,200……….151.25
2. Seymour 9-0……….330……..1,310……….145.56
3. Cromwell 9-0……….380……..1,300………144.44
4. North Branford 9-0…260…….1,070……….133.75
5. Rocky Hill 8-1………330……..1,170………130.00
6. Ansonia 8-1…………270……..1,110………123.33
7. Montville 8-1………..240……..1,080……….120.00
8. NW Catholic 7-2…..230……….880………..110.00

So, if the season ended today: No. 8 NW Catholic at No. 1 New London; No. 7 Montville at No. 2 Seymour; No. 6 Ansonia at No. 3 Cromwell; No. 5 Rocky Hill at No. 4 North Branford.

—–Other Conenders——-
Wolcott 7-2…………….210……….980………..108.89
Hyde 7-2………………..250……….970………..107.78
Plainfield 6-2…………..170……….810…………101.25
Ellington/Somers 7-2..180……….900…………100.00
St. Joseph 6-3………..180……….860………….95.56
Tolland 6-3……………..140……….760………….95.00
Foran 6-3……………….160……….820………….91.11
Griswold 6-3……………180……….820………….91.11

That’s it for this week, kids. Until next time … or until the CIAC football committee gets its act together. :)

SPB

Categories: Uncategorized
Sean Patrick Bowley

Leave a Reply

37 Responses

  1. Football Fan says:

    Enrollment should not be the only criteria in determining class status.Can I please have 1 good reason why a New London cannot play against a New Canaan or Glastonbury in the 2008 playoffs or a Greenwich vs Ansonia in 2007 ?
    Don”t get me wrong ,I prefer your playoff system over the present day format but……..

  2. PBL says:

    SPB I think you said you have brought this up to a few important people in the past.What is was the reasons they gave you as to why there is not a better playoff system in this state????

    Or why they think the current way the playoffs are set up work so well??????

  3. PBL says:

    NVL will not allow Ansonia to play outside the NVL, so I believe.

    Even if Ansonia wanted to play Greenwich the NVL would not allow them to do so.

    Again make a certain amount of non conference games mandtory every year would avoid a lot of BS.

    So even this year anyone outside the NVL wanted to play Ansonia the NVL would not allow it.

    Someone correct me if I am wrong.

  4. CJP says:

    SPB-Would this system get rid of the traditional Thanksgiving Rivalries, or do we go an EXTRA week? Do we start a week earlier? How would this all work out?

    Who is the state MVP? Vote at http://ctfi.blogspot.com

  5. Dave k says:

    SPB
    I like the three level format but we should have four classes. LL,L,M,S. A team that wins 80% OF their game should make the playoffs. That would happen with four classes. teams like crosby, bunnell,Newington, hyde, wolcott belong in the playoffs. Hyde is a great example of a two loss team that belongs in the playoffs they scheduled an 11th game against Wilbur Cross a LL school and lost in OT.

  6. SPB says:

    Therein lies the problem to all state playoff solutions, CJP.

    I’ve been one of the biggest advocates of keeping Thanksgiving day games.

    However, as more and more schools are moving Thanksgiving Day games to Thanksgiving Eve they’re ruining the whole day already. So I’m starting to relax a little bit on keeping the Thanksgiving tradition.

    This playoff system, I believe, is worth fighting for. Maybe at Thanksgiving’s expense.

    My original thinking was that we add one more week. Play the quarters Tuesday, semis Saturday and then take the week off for Championships.

    But in that case, we’d have to have the SWC, NVL and FCIAC eliminate their championship games (or play them on thanksgiving) because otherwise teams are playing too many games in the span of three weeks. six football games in three weeks for the likely championship participants is just far, far, FAR too much to ask.

    So, with Thanksgiving Day games already on their way out, I think we should wrap up the regular season the friday and saturday before and say to heck with thanksgiving.

    Then play quarters the saturday after Thanksgiving, semis the next week and Championships the week before.

    Yeah, I know. Some people would go absolutely bonkers about that and I’m not so sure, either. But, how many tried and true T-Day rivalries are there really? Let’s name the great ones:

    Ansonia-Naugatuck, Green Bowl, Shelton-Derby (and is this game not dying a slow death already)… um…Stratford-Bunnell? Central-Harding…? um … Gotta go outside the region: Hand-Guilford, Cheshire-Southington, Stonington vs. Westerly-RI; Hartford Public-Weaver; Xavier-Middletown…

    You can name a few more, but mostly the biggies are just the first few. And does it matter whether we play these rivalry games on Thanksgiving? All of these can be played the weekend before and be just as big as if they were played on Thanksgiving. I still think most of them will remain big draws regardless.

    All of the other ones in the FCIAC, like Darien-New Canaan, Stamford-Westhill … they haven’t always been played on Thanksgiving anyway. So they’re easily moved. Same with the SWC.

    I dunno, food for thought.

  7. PBL says:

    Bunnell & Stratford never use to play on thanksgiving.

    Bunnell use to play Law every year on thanksgiving.

    Bunnell vs Stratford was moved to thanksgiving just because of thanksgiving to attract more people(Mostly Alumi) to the game.

    Persoanlly Bunnell vs Stratford games no matter what day or night it is played on will always have a huge crowd.

  8. bulldogs5 says:

    SPB – Doesn’t Newtown play Masuk on Thanksgiving? I thought you were the biggest fan of the mighty Masuk Panthers on this blog.

    PBL – I agree, Bunnell vs. Stratford always draws a huge crowd and a good game. The games are always fun to watch (Murray and Staley put on a show in ’03) as did Torrey and Ox in ’06. I like the night games better, they always seem more intense.

    Anyhow, I’d love to see 3 state champions. I’d love to see the Ansonia, Greenwich, Bunnell, and New Canaan teams of the past 2 years play each other. I still think Bunnell would have won, but hey, all of the teams got really big rings. Twice.

  9. fb says:

    please disregard CJP’s request to cast a vote for state MVP on that site. Jordan Reed is not on the list, therefore the poll is completely senseless, meaningless, and idiotic.

  10. Football Fan says:

    In Response to:
    NVL will not allow Ansonia to play outside the NVL, so I believe.

    Even if Ansonia wanted to play Greenwich the NVL would not allow them to do so.

    Again make a certain amount of non conference games mandtory every year would avoid a lot of BS.

    So even this year anyone outside the NVL wanted to play Ansonia the NVL would not allow it.

    Someone correct me if I am wrong.

    ***IN THE PLAYOFFS****
    I was commenting on why New London cannot play against a New Canaan or Glastonbury in the 2008 playoffs or a Greenwich vs Ansonia in 2007 ?

  11. LoveThisGame says:

    Here are my head scratchers-why was an out of league game added to the schedules this season? If you are adding a game, why not make it count? All the teams have scrimmages before the seasons start so whats the point? Some towns had to travel very far (like Immaculate) & others couldnt even GET a game! Also, why are SWCs played BEFORE all games are in, ie Newqtown vs Masuk! The 4 contenders for SWCs are Bunnell, Brookfield, Masuk & Newtown, all play except Masuk & Newtown. Without those games, Newtown’s schedule is the weakest. If the SWCs are supposed to be the best in the league, why not test the whole league? It makes it all a bit hollow in my book. With the season moved up that one week the senseless games were played, all of the games would be in & we would be watching the best vs the best. I dont get it!

  12. ernie says:

    Up until 3 years ago Bunnell wasnt on the playoff radar and now they are talked about like they are an elite program. Stratford vs Bunnell draws a huge crowd. Please go to an SCC game or Valley game before you talk stupid.

  13. hamden football says:

    I just can’t give up Green Bowl, sorry.

    Thanksgiving games wouldn’t be nearly as big if they were held the weekend before. A lot of people who go to the games are alumni or others who are in town for the holiday.

  14. gman says:

    SPB-How about playing the state championship games at two sites instead of three and schedule the games so us junkies can view three games instead of two. How about 11 am for the first game-2:30 for game two and 7pm for game three.

  15. fake Rob says:

    Hey, SPB, where’s the Week 9 podcast? I have to have something to listen to while I’m pretending to work at my desk here

  16. LoveThisGame says:

    “Class M is looking dreadful after Brookfield.”
    What, exactly, does that mean?

  17. PBL says:

    To Football Fan:

    Ansonia is class S & Greenwich is class LL

    No way ever they would meet in the playoffs even with SPB’s playoff idea.

  18. PBL says:

    To anwser the question in general Football Fan:

    All those teams are from different classes.

    As the State playoffs stand now LL plays LL, L plays L, M plays M, MM plays MM, SS plays SS & S plays S.

  19. SPB says:

    “Awful after Brookfield” means, after Brookfield the rest of the division stinks.

    It’s also a subtle way of saying Brookfield should win a state title against that crew in Class M.

  20. Football Fan says:

    My point is why cannot teams of equal ability square off to determine the overall best team on the field of play.I do not want to hear about class size as S and SS teams play LL teams during regular season play on a regular basis.SBP’S system is better than we have now but IMO it does not go far enough.NO REASON Greenwich vs Ansonia game could not have happened in the PLAYOFFS last season IF we had a better playoff system intact.

  21. Masuk???? says:

    I’m just wondering. How come when Masuk is not going to make the SWC’s out of no where the system becomes flawed. But when they are in it there is not one word to be said. I know that it makes no sense that we dont finish all I division games before the championship. At the beginning of the season everyone has the same chance to make it. You win your in. If you lose then I guess that just sucks. Better luck next year.

  22. LoveThisGame says:

    Thanks SPB, those poor Brookfielders….tough night in Newtown…actually painful to watch! Since you have such good answers, how about venturing some thoughts about my question regarding that extra game being added with no real consequence. Do you have any thoughts about why that was done the way it was? I know I said it already but I dont get it : ) !

  23. hamden football says:

    But who would decide the matchups?

    The way it works now is schools of similar sizes (read: similar sized talent pools) should theoretically have the same chance of being good. It would be unfair for a team that recruits from, say, 300 boys to have to play for a state championship against a school that recruits from a pool of 1,300 boys for a state championship. The bigger schools simply have a better chance of having better players.

  24. hamden football says:

    The playoff system is mostly fine, there are just too many classes. Three classes is plenty for a state our size.

  25. Football Fan says:

    The bigger schools simply have a better chance of having better players.

    In a perfect world you are correct.It just does come into play when you are talking about the best teams of any class.Not too many years that a smaller class title caliber team(S/SS) could not compete against a larger class title caliber team(L/LL).An example would have been the last 2 years with Ansonia vs Greenwich.This game would have been very competitive.New London(S) in 2007 got pasted by Ansonia by 35 points easily defeated Ledyard(Class M or MM)champion by 40 points.

  26. PBL says:

    To Mausk????

    It is crazy that Mausk really has no shot at playing in the SWC title game.

    Two problems:

    Mausk plays Newtown the week after the SWC title game.Which leads me to my 2nd problem.

    The SWC Conference title game is meaningless & this year proves it once again.

    Lets say Newtown beats Brookfield in the title game.Yet Mausk beats Newtown on thanksgivng.Newtown is still the SWC title holder.

    See my point is it makes no sense to have a title game at all especially when a certain other team(Mausk) still has not played Newtown in the regular season.

    The FCIAC has a bit better system on how they hold their title game.

    Also Newtown could beat Brookfield again & than lose to Mausk on thansgiving.Newtown than could be out of a Class LL playoff berth, yet Newtown would be the SWC top dog per say.

    It almost happened to Bunnell 2 years ago.Bunnell beat Mausk in the SWC title game than lost to Stratford on thanksgiving.If it was not help from a tie Bunnell flew n under the radar to make the Class L playoffs as a #4 seed to eventually win the Class L state title.

    See if we had a better playoff system in this state like SPB’s those teams with one loss or even 2 losses could actually make the playoffs.

  27. SWCtruth says:

    PBL–

    couldnt agree with you more its an absolute joke that teams don’t play each other before the championship. It doesn’t make too much sense but it happens and every team reaps benefits. In 2006 Bunnell played Masuk in the championship when they didn’t face each other in the regular season. Stratford had to play Masuk in the regular season and Newtown needed to play Bunnell. So I guess it has benefitted all teams over the years. Just the luck of the draw and this year Newtown is getting the help

  28. tj says:

    From a fan’s point of view, three weeks is too long to wait for the championship game (umm 3 Champions) No one will care, Major League Baseball and the NHL are good examples of what happens when you expand the playoffs.

    From a team’s point of view, to be on top of your game for three weeks in a row is very tough physically and mentally. Heck, it is the same number of games the division winners is the NFL have to win the Super Bowl.

    That said, my dream playoff would be one Open Class, eight teams based on a BCS like formula (both polls, strength of conference, strength of schedule). One true State Champion would be worth the three week wait and toil.

  29. RGC says:

    Sean,(and all the Masuk apologists)
    Why is Masuk in your elite 8? Who have they beaten exactly to deserve their ranking?… Correct!! No One. Don’t give me Bunnell with their swiss cheese defense. They couldn’t tackle a pylon. Bunnell gave up 36 points to an average Bethel team that passes for less than 50 yds/gm. Which means they had it run down their throat all night. Gave up 30 to Brookfield as well. So back to Masuk. No quality wins, got shut out the last 22 minutes in a loss (at home) to Brookfield who proved to be overrated…
    Where’s the objectivity?

  30. swcfan says:

    I agree that the SWC system is flawed BUT it has been this way every year. Masuk as benefited from not having to play Newtown prior to the SWC title game the past 2 years. The FCIAC system is exactly the same. This game is scheduled to be played on Friday the 21st BEFORE the Thanksgiving games. The only difference is the FCIAC cancels their title game IF the 2 teams playing will meet on Thanksgiving making it the title game and the final regular season game all in one. If NC and Darien were not scheduled to play each other on Thanksgiving they would be playing on the 21st (Before the end of the season). I believe the NVL does it this way as well. I agree the system is flawed but it has been this way for a while. The only way to fix it is to either move the Thanksgiving games up or push the state playoffs back so you would have time to play a league title game in between.

  31. RGC says:

    Hey Masuk Fans P.S.
    There are 14 teams in the SWC. Do the math! Everybody can’t play everybody every year.

    Instead of wining that you’re you have no shot at the SWC championship game beat an overrated Brookfield team on your home field! Problem solved.

    It seems you want to rail at the flaws in the system, in a year when maybe your not that good.

  32. Masuk Rules 2.0 says:

    Masuk will win Class L.

  33. yuump says:

    MASUK benefitted from not playing Newtown? I think it is the other way around. Masuk gets respect because they win games year in and out…not to mention beat shelton and greenwich in the preseason. Masuk will not go away becasue they have a program. Just get used to it.

  34. SWCtruth says:

    Ok honestly if we’re going to talk about preseason Newtown beat Seymour in a real scrimmage before the season not a “controlled” one…Honestly neither Masuk OR Newtown has played much competition. They BOTH played Brookfield and thats it…Stop giving Masuk credit they don’t deserve..In the years past yes they have had quality teams, this year, they should be in the championship and choked against Brookfield and everyone knows it

  35. yuump says:

    pretty sure masuk played bunnell too. Did newtown?

  36. Please No More says:

    Newtown has not played Masuk OR Bunnell. They will not play Bunnell at all & will play Masuk on Thanksgiving Day, after SWCs. As far as the Masuk game vs Brookfield, I am tired of words like “choked” and “gave it away”. Brookfield was IN that game the whole time. Even at a 15 point deficit, they were in the game. Those 15 points came off big plays, not drives down the field. Brookfield WON that game, Masuk did not LOSE that game. Its funny to me that those words are used about Masuk losing to Brookfield. Newtown beat Brookfield and now are considered in the “Big Time”. Its a shame no one will give Brookfield credit. They work as hard as anyone else and they play as hard as anyone else and should be treated the same as anyone else.

  37. kerry gavin says:

    You’re counting preseason scrimmages as wins and losses to prove Masuk is good?!?! Very sad…

%d bloggers like this: