In the interest of all the St. Joseph and Bullard-Havens fans out there, we’re going to jump right over the Class M and MM brackets and go straight to… Class SS.
Didn’t we tell you?
We’re mad.
Update: His Madness butchered one key ingredient of the St. Joseph/Bullard-Havens scenario below. If Wolcott loses, both teams are good bets to get in with victories. Duh. It’s been fixed. See below. Changes in maroon type.
CLASS SS SCENARIOS
HOLY CROSS (8-1) 1190
Remaining: Wolcott (180)
Guaranteed (20): Wilby/Sacred Heart; Kennedy/Crosby
Bonus 40: Ansonia (Naugatuck); Torrington (Watertown); Woodland (Seymour); St. Paul (Rocky Hill)
Min: 1210-1250
Max: 1390-1430
The Mad Scientist SEZ: Win over Wolcott and they’re the top seed. A loss, would put Wolcott in as the top seed, and drop the Crusaders into a fight with Bullard-Havens and St. Joseph for one of the last two playoff spots.
In that case, Holy Cross would be in if either Bullard-Havens or St. Joseph loses. If they both win, Holy Cross would need to wait for bonuses. If Holy Cross gets more than half of those (which is likely), it should clinch a spot. Anything less, and they’ll have to sweat it out.
MONTVILLE (8-1) 1270 UNOFFICIALLY CLINCHED No. 2 SEED
Remaining: St. Bernard (100)
Guaranteed (10): Plainfield/Griswold
Bonus 60: Stonington (Westerly); NFA (New London); Bacon Acad (RHAM); Windham (Wilcox Tech); Ledyard (Fitch); Waterford (East Lyme)
Max: 1280-1340
The Mad Scientist SEZ: Montville needs to win to get in… which should be simple because St. Bernard/Norwich Tech hasn’t been competitive in going 0-9. If Montville wins, then they’ll clinch the No. 2 seed and a home game. A loss and they’re probably still in. But they shouldn’t lose.
WOLCOTT (8-1) 1150
Remaining: Holy Cross (180)
Guaranteed (20): Woodland/Seymour, Kennedy/Crosby
Bonus 40: Killingly (Putnam); Wilby (Sacred Heart); Watertown (Torrington); Derby (Shelton);
Min: 1170-1210
Max: 1350-1390
(Updated) The Mad Scientist SEZ: It’s pretty simple for Wolcott in this mad division. Win and you’re the top seed. Lose, and you’re pretty much out unless St. Joseph or Bullard-Havens loses.
BULLARD-HAVENS (8-1) 1070
Remaining: Bassick (120 + 20)
Guaranteed (0):
Bonus 60: Abbott Tech (Farmington); Capital Prep (Prince Tech, Prince Tech); SMSA (Bulkeley); Tourellotte (Woodstock); Cheney Tech (East Catholic); Wilcox Tech (Windham)
Min: 1070-1120
Max: 1210-1260
(Updated) The Mad Scientist SEZ: Bullard-Havens is in with a win and a St. Joseph loss. It can also get in if Wolcott loses and JUST ONE more bonus game.
But if Wolcott and St. Joseph both win, then as Ned Griffen of the Day of New London says, “Get out your abacuses!”
See below for more.
ST. JOSEPH (7-2) 1010
Remaining: Trumbull (150 + 20)
Guaranteed (10): Wilton/Trinity
Bonus 50: Crosby (Kennedy); Darien (New Canaan); Bassick (Bullard-Havens); Fairfield Warde (Ludlowe); Norwalk (McMahon)
Min: 1020-1070
Max: 1190-1240
(Updated) St. Joe needs to beat Trumbull to get in (this is an important point), and then get either Bullard-Havens to lose to Bassick the night before or have Wolcott lose to Holy Cross on Thanksgiving Day to clinch.
If Wolcott and Bullard-Havens win… it’s going to be a footrace for the final two spots between St. Joseph, Bullard-Havens and Holy Cross.
Holy Cross, however, has a nice advantage. So, unless Wolcott loses, this will be a dogfight between St. Joe and Bullard-Havens.
Down to the wire.
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If it does come town to Bullard-Havens and St. Joseph, here’s what to look for.
First, a Bullard-Havens win over Bassick takes 10 points away from the Cadets. So before they can start looking at the scenarios, St. Joseph would already be denied a bonus game and will be left with just 40 potential bonuses for a max of 1230. Bullard-Havens, meanwhile, will have 5 bonus games, for a max of 1270.
That’s a decided advantage until you realize many of Bullard-Havens’ bonus teams are not favored to win their games.
The short-short version is this:
In order to clinch, Bullard-Havens must earn equal the amount of bonus games as St. Joseph.
If St. Joseph gets one, Bullard-Havens must also get one. If St. Joseph gets two, Bullard-Havens must also get two.
If Bullard-Havens gets anything less, the Cadets will tie and force a tiebreaker — which is overwhelmingly in St. Joseph’s favor, 84-64.
Conversely, if Bullard-Havens can somehow get 4 bonus games to come in, it will clinch with 1240 points because St. Joseph cant get any higher than 1230.
Let’s break it down further:
With a win, St. Joseph will be relying on Crosby beating Kennedy (50-50), Darien beating New Canaan (possible, but unlikely), Warde beating Ludlowe (50-50), Norwalk beating McMahon (likely).
Factoring in those probabilities, St. Joseph will likely finish anywhere between 1200 and 1220. If it gets an upset from Darien, 1230.
Bullard-Havens is relying on Abbott Tech over Farmington (Farmington won), Capital Prep over Prince Tech (50-50), SMSA over Bulkeley (SMSA won), Cheney Tech over East Catholic (unlikely), Wilcox Tech over Windham (unlikely).
Factoring in those probabilities, Bullard Havens will likely finish anywhere between 1210-1230.
A huge matchup to watch for St. Joseph is Capital Prep (5-4) vs. Prince Tech (7-1).
Bullard-Havens played and beat Capital Prep twice. So it gets double points for every one of Capitals wins (which, frankly, is a terrible loophole in the CIAC football points. Teams should not be allowed to play opponents twice and have it count twice for expressly this reason).
Anyway, if Prince Tech (7-1) wins that game, that would deny Bullard-Havens 20 bonuses. It could then only max out at 1250, with many questionable bonus games remaining. St. Joseph’s window would open considerably.
The Hogs would most certainly need AT LEAST two wins from Warde, Crosby and Norwalk. That would give them between 1210-1220 and, thus, a good shot at tying Bullard-Havens to clinch the spot on tiebreakers. If Bullard-Havens gets no bonus games, all St. Joseph needs is one of those bonus games.
If Capital Prep wins… Well, St. Joseph would be in trouble. They would have to hope Bullard-Havens doesn’t get any more bonus games, or failing that, get Darien to beat New Canaan to max out at 1240.
Of course, Holy Cross could lose and then get little or no bonus games. But that would mean Ansonia losing to Naugatuck, Woodland losing to Seymour, St. Paul losing to Rocky Hill. (Watertown is favored over Torrington based on records, so that may not go Holy Cross’ way anyway.)
If, for by some insane reason, Holy Cross, St. Joseph and Bullard-Havens tie in playoff points, it would come down to tiebreaker points and St. Joseph and Holy Cross would clinch over Bullard-Havens.
Finally, if Wolcott, St. Joseph and Bullard-Havens all lose, then Wolcott will capture the No. 4 seed.
Whew.
St. Joes would beat them all.
Comment by big guy — November 22nd, 2009 @ 4:43 pm
Montville would beat St. Joes, I hope St. Joes gets in so Montville can beat them.
Comment by John d — November 22nd, 2009 @ 6:07 pm
st.joes is 5th ranked team big guy
Comment by ray brown — November 22nd, 2009 @ 7:08 pm
I also believe Montville will take this division. St. Joes would not beat Montville.
Comment by Colonel — November 22nd, 2009 @ 7:11 pm
I realize St. Joes is fifth Ray-Ray, but if you would look carefully at the first comment you would notice that Big Guy stated St. Joes would beat them all. I was merely replying to what he stated.
Comment by Colonel — November 22nd, 2009 @ 7:25 pm
SPB if you read this I would be curious ….
Is BHT even capable of beating Bassick?
You get the skinny on all these teams and broke down the scenarios but
is all this talk a waste of time?
Comment by YsomadatBHT — November 23rd, 2009 @ 1:39 pm
90 percent of this is a waste of time when Thanksgiving is finished. But there’s always one or two Classes that go haywire because of a couple of upsets… and there are typically a lot on Thanksgiving.
As for your question, yes. Bullard-Havens is capable of beating Bassick. But the reverse is also true. Without getting into specifics, because I don’t know a ton about either team, it’s a 50-50 shot if you’re St. Joseph. That is to say, it could go either way.
Comment by Sean Patrick Bowley — November 23rd, 2009 @ 1:46 pm
SPB is right, when it comes to Turkey day you can almost throw records out the window…notice I said almost.
Comment by John d — November 23rd, 2009 @ 2:29 pm
ST.JOES SHOULD GO PLAY WITH THE BIG BOYS
Comment by STEVE — November 23rd, 2009 @ 5:18 pm
st . joes is good team——but i think they lose to trumbull
Comment by ray brown — November 23rd, 2009 @ 6:00 pm