Greenwich (in red) takes on Don Bosco Prep in a scrimmage Tuesday in Ramsey, N.J.
Greenwich 7…. Don Bosco Prep 42
Whoever was manning the game for MSG Varsity’s Mike Quick (and it might have been Mike) summed it up thusly:
Bosco’s Quam Muhammad showed Greenwich what NJ football is all about today
— Mike Quick(@Quick60) August 28, 2012
This shouldn’t come as a shock for the sane among us. Don Bosco isn’t just a New Jersey power. It’s a national football factory. So if you were looking to see how one of ours stacked up against that kind of evil, you got a small taste.
Then again, this was only a scrimmage. Imagine if it was for real.
(shudder).
But it still would have been fun to watch. Unfortunately, I couldn’t hop over the Tappan Zee to check it out like many of you had hoped.
But our own David Fierro filed this report from Ramsey, N.J.
Dave also blogged about the scrimmage here.
But let’s not go nuts. We’re not playing the likes of Bosco or Bergen Catholic. This isn’t a referendum on where Connecticut stacks vs. the country. Frankly, I don’t care. And nor should you.
This is about preparing for the Connecticut 2012 season. We want to know how our teams stack up against our teams.
There were plenty of other scrimmages out there (Ansonia vs. Notre Dame-West Haven, anyone?). So if you have a citizen’s report or (even better) any Rick Volk-esque footage, clue the rest of us ravenous high school football mavens in on what you saw.
I’ll be back on the trail Wednesday to see a few local scrimmages. Stay tuned.
That isn’t an intellectually honest comment by Quick. There isn’t a public HS in NJ that could come within 5 TD’s of Bosco, and there is only one Catholic HS that could do so, so I’m not sure yesterday proved anything about New Jersey football.
No injuries, then missioned accomplished. Two more tough scrimmages and if all healthy … watch out Ridgefield. Coming downhill, loaded for bear.
Did Greenwich make it out of NJ without injuries?
Agree with roto. Bosco recruits the best from the entire state of NJ (and sometimes NY and PA) … it is like a regional all-star team. Greenwich has what the town gives them, nothing more. I would love to see CT’s 22 best all preped together for 4 weeks and then line up against Bosco … that would be a fair fight and the outcome would be a bit different. A little taste of Matt Walsh, Arkeel Newsome and Tim Boyle operating behind our best OL and WRs would be one tough test for the mighty Bosco.
Did Bosco get anything out of this?
@Jay – Bosco can’t find a scrimmage, so they get needed reps without having to beat up on their own depth chart.
It was the third day this season that Greenwich wore pads. They don’t even have all their starters picked . They are getting ready for their season. Bosco already had scrimmages and they were getting ready for their first game. Bosco had their starting line play the entire game. Whereas Greenwich tried working in different players. No question Bosco is the cream of the crop. They definitely beat them but Greenwich showed that they could hold their own and play tough. The score is not a good indicator of how the “scrimmage” was played. In no way were they steam rolled.
I think Greenwich will benefit in a huge way from this scrimmage. If everyone stays healthy after Iona Prep, Masuk and Hamden, look out Ridgefield! It will be full speed ahead to Staples who is going to have a great season also.
I agree JB- I mean Greg Toal has kids coming from an hour or more away to play at Bosco. If Quick’s statement was well-thought, which it wasn’t he would have referenced a team like Wayne Hills, a traditional public powerhouse coached by Carolina Panther Greg Olsen’s father, who like was said earlier wouldn’t come close to Bosco or Bergen either
I believe that the presence of Bosco, Bergen, and St. Joes Regional has destroyed the health of public school football in north Jersey. Almost any kid worth a D-1 offer is at these three programs, or Paramus Catholic. It would be like if Xavier, Fairfield Prep, ND West Haven, and Holy Cross sucked up any kid remotely near their schools who had even the slightest possibility of a D1AA offer
Mike Quick showed just how myopic he really is. Don Bosco ruined every NJ team that they played last year, with the exception of another recruiting powerhouse Bergen Catholic. Is Don Bosco or Bergen Catholic what NJ football is all about or or are the other 98% of the teams in NJ what it’s all about? I beg to say that if the best of CT played the “best of the rest” in NJ, you’d find some very competitive match ups.
DBP and BC maybe the cream of the crop in New Jersey, but there are plenty of other high schools throughout the entire state, that have talent like DBP. There’s Saint Peter’s Prep, you have the South Jersey schools like Timber Creek, West Deptford, Immaculata Elizabeth, Jacson Memorial, and Metuchen that can probably run the mill out of pretty much most of the schools in Connecticut. Piscataway is also a very good football school, as well as East and South Brunswick. FWIW, Bergen Catholic has yet to unseat Bosco, and it seems like they may be able to this season. You guys name me any High School in the state of Ct that can hang with some of those aforementioned schools.
Let’s face it, the entire state can’t hang with the lot of NJ schools!
Hey Ruth. You don’t know who would beat unto until they actually step on the field. Greenwich had the cahones to do it and they did lose by 5 TDs but I’m telling you they were competitive. It was not a blowout where Bosco ran them over every play. There we’re a few blown coverages which led to TDs a few missed tackles but the Greenwich kids did not cower against such a strong opponent. I’m sure there are other great programs in NJ but CT is better than you think.
SANITY CHECK – BOSCO GREENWICH
1. JB, you said Bosco recruits kids from PA. Do you have any basis for that statement? I have followed Don Bosco football closely and I have never heard of a player from PA.
2. JB, if you want a “fair fight,” how about NJ’s best 22 against CT’s best 22? Why don’t you stop playing RI and take on NJ? The Governor’s Bowl between NJ and NY has ended (NJ led the series 8-3). After that series ended NJ took on the all stars from all over the Northeast. That lasted two years. NJ’s record was 2 wins, no losses. By the way, Bosco’s 2009 and 2011 teams would have beaten the CT All-State teams from those years, no matter how long the CT players practiced. I am sure both of those Bosco teams had more D1 players than the CT All-State team.
3. The impression that some people have tried to create that Greenwich was at a disadvantage because of limited practice time is a bit disingenuous. Yes, it is a disadvantage to have only been in pads for three days, if that’s true. But Greenwich has been preparing for this scrimmage for a long time and it was big deal for the Cardinals. As early as March, the Greenwich football web site had a clock counting down the minutes to the Bosco scrimmage. It’s not like they took this lightly. They took it much more seriously than Bosco did. Despite what the Greenwich coach said, Bosco had only one 4-way scrimmage before the Greenwich scrimmage. Greenwich could have started practice a week earlier but chose instead to opt for spring practice. Obviously, Greenwich thought the spring practice would give them an advantage. They scheduled the scrimmage and knew where they would be at this time.
4. Bosco has only three returning starters. They are obviously struggling to find an offensive line combination that will work. They have tried moving over players who have never played on the offensive line and you saw the results. In contrast, Greenwich has, to quote the CT papers, a nucleus of returning starters from an 8-2 team, including one of the best QBs in CT. Virtually everyone playing for Bosco was a JV player last year and many were playing out of position. Greenwich knew that would the case, and that is undoubtedly why they chose this year to schedule a scrimmage.
4. Despite the some of the ridiculous comments on this blog about Bosco and NJ, I have to say I was impressed with Greenwich’s moxie. They were not intimidated and they played hard for 4 quarters. They do not have Bosco’s athleticism, but they were tough and fundamentally sound.
Come on, Powerl, Bosco (and the rest of the Catholic league) takes the best D1 recruits in NJ and always has … the public schools in NJ are left with the mortals and are no better than similar size CT schools. My point is not to argue that NJ is bigger than CT and has more total talent, rather CT doesn’t have an elite recruit league like Bosco & Co.
Quicks tweet comes to know surprise. Anybody that watches MSG Varsity can see how much he sweats Don Bosco. Quick some get Quick a towel. Why to bash your home state Michael.
Quicks tweet comes to know surprise. Anybody that watches MSG Varsity can see how much he sweats Don Bosco. Quick some get Quick a towel. Way to bash your home state Michael.
Quick note on the Quick tweets: He’s been known to delegate Tweeting to proxies, one of which is “Raf”. So that might not have been Quick saying that (although he does love saying things like that).
It’s very hard in any sport for a public school to beat a private school if the private school actively recruits. This is a fact and anyone that says differently doesn’t have a clue. I admire public school coaches a lot more than private schools coaches for that very reason….I just saw a very interesting piece on Coach Bob Hurley of ST. Anthony in New Jersey. He might be a great coach but let him coach at Wright Tech of Stamford without any recruits and see if he would win. I very much doubt it.
Funny how none of the geniuses in this entire stupid string even mention that Bosco’s biggest stud LB ever, Steele Divitto, is kicking butt at Boston College. And the other OLB at BC is Kevin Pierre Louis from Norwalk Conn? And where’d Steele commute to Bosco from every day? Ridgefield, Conn. Where, had he stayed home to play, wouldve played with Tommy Jordan, massive Florida recruit who’s now at Gainsville. And, if you live under a rock, you didn’t notice Silas Redd, Pierre Louis’ backfield mate in high school, being begged by #1 USC to transfer there from Penn State. I could go on and on listing additonal names but what’s the point. And for the record, Quick went to the now defunct Central Catholic in Norwalk Conn… He hates his home state and always will. Oh, gotta go, Redd just went 40 yards down to 5 yard line after breaking 5 tackles. Over 100 yards for he game. Probably wouldn’t have been able to play at Bosco or Wayne Hills though. What a joke.