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dist1ump, Paul and Mike – thanks for all of the responses. I appeciate each of your time and the information. I defintely have a better understanding now.
dist1ump, Paul and Mike – thanks for all of the responses. I appeciate each of your time and the information. I defintely have a better understanding now.
FYI the Isles had 37 different warm bodies play for them this year.That has to be close to a record that you don`t want to be a part of.
FYI the Isles had 37 different warm bodies play for them this year.That has to be close to a record that you don`t want to be a part of.
Right, good call on Andrew MacDonald. I forgot that he had just signed out of juniors only last summer.
For the most part, though, they do only offer NHL contracts to the players that would do the most to help the NHL team out if they were ever called up. Veteran guys like Tim Jackman, who looked impressive this year, are perfect examples of that. Though there are people who are “under contract” by the Islanders (i.e. A. MacDonald, Pitton, Mole, ogorodnikov, Marjamaki, and Luch Aquino) who are even less valuable than players like Wotton, but have NHL contracts. This is mostly in part b/c the Islanders sign their draft picks to NHL contracts, and let them walk if they don’t prove any worth after the typical 3 years. It’s really a safety net for the Islanders to keep control over their young prospects just in case those guys become diamonds in the rough and make a smooth transition to pro hockey (i.e. Chris Campoli-7th round pick).
I also think that the max amount of NHL contracts you can hand out is around 52 or 53, but it doesn’t really make much of a difference. No NHL team is that pathetic that they have that many guys play for them in a single year.
Right, good call on Andrew MacDonald. I forgot that he had just signed out of juniors only last summer.
For the most part, though, they do only offer NHL contracts to the players that would do the most to help the NHL team out if they were ever called up. Veteran guys like Tim Jackman, who looked impressive this year, are perfect examples of that. Though there are people who are “under contract” by the Islanders (i.e. A. MacDonald, Pitton, Mole, ogorodnikov, Marjamaki, and Luch Aquino) who are even less valuable than players like Wotton, but have NHL contracts. This is mostly in part b/c the Islanders sign their draft picks to NHL contracts, and let them walk if they don’t prove any worth after the typical 3 years. It’s really a safety net for the Islanders to keep control over their young prospects just in case those guys become diamonds in the rough and make a smooth transition to pro hockey (i.e. Chris Campoli-7th round pick).
I also think that the max amount of NHL contracts you can hand out is around 52 or 53, but it doesn’t really make much of a difference. No NHL team is that pathetic that they have that many guys play for them in a single year.
About the chances I play in Utah next year.
About the chances I play in Utah next year.
I prefer the Wotton would be lost in the NHL phrase over the cmon reference.
Either way ,whats the chances wotton plays in Utah next year?
🙂
I prefer the Wotton would be lost in the NHL phrase over the cmon reference.
Either way ,whats the chances wotton plays in Utah next year?
🙂
72:20 less…. must’ve felt like a walk in the park in Philly.
72:20 less…. must’ve felt like a walk in the park in Philly.
Paul offers a pretty good picture, but to clarify some things:
1) Just because a player is on an NHL contract does not necessarily mean he has to clear waivers to be assigned to the AHL. That’s determined by a player’s age when he first signed, and his service time. As an example, if the Islanders had decided in March to sign Colton Fretter to an NHL contract, he wouldn’t have required waivers to go down to Bridgeport.
2) Teams can have only 50 players under NHL contract. So other players — this is more Wotton’s case than “oh he’d be lost in the NHL”; c’mon — get AHL contracts. This is also, obviously, how AHL teams fill out their rosters beyond the NHL-contracted players that their parent club sends down.
3) Andrew MacDonald has an NHL contract. Ford only had an ECHL contract until Clear Day and was up here on a pro tryout until then.
Other than that, that’s about right.
Paul offers a pretty good picture, but to clarify some things:
1) Just because a player is on an NHL contract does not necessarily mean he has to clear waivers to be assigned to the AHL. That’s determined by a player’s age when he first signed, and his service time. As an example, if the Islanders had decided in March to sign Colton Fretter to an NHL contract, he wouldn’t have required waivers to go down to Bridgeport.
2) Teams can have only 50 players under NHL contract. So other players — this is more Wotton’s case than “oh he’d be lost in the NHL”; c’mon — get AHL contracts. This is also, obviously, how AHL teams fill out their rosters beyond the NHL-contracted players that their parent club sends down.
3) Andrew MacDonald has an NHL contract. Ford only had an ECHL contract until Clear Day and was up here on a pro tryout until then.
Other than that, that’s about right.
There are three tiers of hockey (in order of importance): NHL, AHL, and ECHL. If you’re on an AHL contract, your rights can be picked up by any NHL team, and they can add you to the NHL roster (i.e. Brian Boucher). Then that NHL team can’t drop you back down to the AHL w/o you clearing waivers. Most of our guys (but not all) are on NHL contracts b/c the Islanders can’t afford to lose Kyle Okposo, Tamby, Comeau, Neilsen, etc. to another NHL team. There are plenty of teams out there that would love to see Kyle Okposo or Tamby play half the year for them even though they’re not NHL ready yet. Guys like Morency and Wotton who would be absolutely lost in the NHL wouldn’t be offered NHL contracts because the NHL team must keep you on their 23-man roster or risk losing you to waivers if they send you down.
Some of the guys in Utah (Jeff Dwyer, Andy MacDonald, Ford, among others) were on AHL contracts but were constantly up and down b/c the Sound Tigers a.) didn’t have room for them on the team and b.) didn’t want to pay them to be healthy scratches. Those guys can only be called up by the Sound Tigers
Guys like Tyler Mosienko and Jean Desrochers were on ECHL contracts. That means that no AHL team had a contract w/ them and they could be called up by anybody. This is more common b/c teams like Utah could get ravaged quickly if the AHL team goes down (like what happened this year). If we called up guys strictly from Utah, sooner or later, they wouldn’t be able to field a roster. So we’re forced to call up guys like Mosienko and Desrochers who have no contract w/ an AHL team to the AHL.
And back to dist1ump’s point on Mosienko: yes I believe he would be a terrific pick-up for our team in the offseason. If for whatever reason, the Sound Tigers brass doesn’t think he’s worth it, then I really hope the kid gets a deal w/ another AHL team. He was fired up when he got the call to the AHL; you could just tell by looking at him play that he really wanted to be here. He’ll be a great addition to any team, and you just hope the best for kids like him who really enjoy playing the game.
There are three tiers of hockey (in order of importance): NHL, AHL, and ECHL. If you’re on an AHL contract, your rights can be picked up by any NHL team, and they can add you to the NHL roster (i.e. Brian Boucher). Then that NHL team can’t drop you back down to the AHL w/o you clearing waivers. Most of our guys (but not all) are on NHL contracts b/c the Islanders can’t afford to lose Kyle Okposo, Tamby, Comeau, Neilsen, etc. to another NHL team. There are plenty of teams out there that would love to see Kyle Okposo or Tamby play half the year for them even though they’re not NHL ready yet. Guys like Morency and Wotton who would be absolutely lost in the NHL wouldn’t be offered NHL contracts because the NHL team must keep you on their 23-man roster or risk losing you to waivers if they send you down.
Some of the guys in Utah (Jeff Dwyer, Andy MacDonald, Ford, among others) were on AHL contracts but were constantly up and down b/c the Sound Tigers a.) didn’t have room for them on the team and b.) didn’t want to pay them to be healthy scratches. Those guys can only be called up by the Sound Tigers
Guys like Tyler Mosienko and Jean Desrochers were on ECHL contracts. That means that no AHL team had a contract w/ them and they could be called up by anybody. This is more common b/c teams like Utah could get ravaged quickly if the AHL team goes down (like what happened this year). If we called up guys strictly from Utah, sooner or later, they wouldn’t be able to field a roster. So we’re forced to call up guys like Mosienko and Desrochers who have no contract w/ an AHL team to the AHL.
And back to dist1ump’s point on Mosienko: yes I believe he would be a terrific pick-up for our team in the offseason. If for whatever reason, the Sound Tigers brass doesn’t think he’s worth it, then I really hope the kid gets a deal w/ another AHL team. He was fired up when he got the call to the AHL; you could just tell by looking at him play that he really wanted to be here. He’ll be a great addition to any team, and you just hope the best for kids like him who really enjoy playing the game.
Tyler was with the Tigers on a PTO. When we called him up he was under contract with Vegas. When he was released he goes back to Vegas. Lets hope the Tigers sign him in the off season.
Tyler was with the Tigers on a PTO. When we called him up he was under contract with Vegas. When he was released he goes back to Vegas. Lets hope the Tigers sign him in the off season.
How did Tyler Mosienko wind up with Las Vegas? Was he on loan to Bridgeport or was he dealt away? I am a relatively new AHL fan and don’t understand all of the player movement/transactions that take place between teams at this level.
How did Tyler Mosienko wind up with Las Vegas? Was he on loan to Bridgeport or was he dealt away? I am a relatively new AHL fan and don’t understand all of the player movement/transactions that take place between teams at this level.
The Utah Sound Tigers won 6-0. Haskins with the hat trick. There’s just 3 games in the ECHL tonight and they’re not done in Vegas yet, but right now with a 8 minutes left in the evening, former Tigers are an amazing 9-12-21 on the night. Three games!! And that’s not counting guys who only played in the preseason here (add a couple more points for them).
The Utah Sound Tigers won 6-0. Haskins with the hat trick. There’s just 3 games in the ECHL tonight and they’re not done in Vegas yet, but right now with a 8 minutes left in the evening, former Tigers are an amazing 9-12-21 on the night. Three games!! And that’s not counting guys who only played in the preseason here (add a couple more points for them).